Friday, August 05, 2011
Desperately Seeking Source Material
An awful lot of material has been published on the web citing resources that in all likelihood were never seen by the authors of those articles. A form of circular reasoning exists and you will often see the exact same words on multiple sites.
This becomes very evident when you search for certain quotes. Obviously they are citing the same document, but we cannot conclude from multiple citations that the source material is authentic. On the internet, distortions get repeated so many times they they seem to be true, even if not.
And because of rampant revisionism - in Charismatic history - the source material is more valuable than ever. This for instance is what makes the recording of Mike Bickle's seminal "Blow the Trumpet" sermon so valuable.
Here's where I need some help. I'm not questioning the veracity of quotations from the original transcription of "Visions and Revelations," but I would like to examine the entire work rather then selected portions - either tape or transcription. At this point, it seems like certain things have changed in some of the stories - and when you can change the story of a visit to heaven, it strongly suggests that the story is a "story."
Here's what I am seeking:
Mike Bickle with Bob Jones "Visions and Revelations" 1988 (I believe this is a 5 part series). Tapes or Transcripts.
Mike Bickle with Bob Jones "Visions and Revelations" 1989 Tapes or Transcripts.
Any materials on IHOP's "Prophetic History" from 1990 to 2001. We have the 12-part series from November 2002 and the more recent 8-part series from September 2009. This series is often called "Encountering Jesus."
Mike Bickle KCF Prophetic History - 6 (or 10?) tape set from January 1997. Tape 6 features Paul Cain. That may have later been repackaged as a CD (set?) called "Our Prophetic History."
Also on my shopping list:
The six-page joint statement by Mike Bickle and Ernie Gruen from May 16, 1993. This was at one time published on the IHOP website at http://www.ihop.org/Mobile/default.aspx?group_id=1000008264&article_id=1000010561
The alleged recantation of Ernie Gruen. This is not the statement of corrections to the audio tape "Do We Keep Smiling and Say Nothing" placed on page 7 of the Gruen paper. To this date, no one has been able to produce a copy of the recantation and Gruen, shortly before his death, denied that he had made any recantation. However, the alleged recantation is often presented as a defense of Mike Bickle, even though Bickle stated, concerning Gruen's charges: “I absolutely believe that this was sovereign..”
Gruen's report indicate that he had a lot of source material- early recordings and such - and any of that material would also be very helpful. He event cited the "Visions and Revelations" mentioned above.
Any material provided will be archived in a manner that will be accessible to other researchers and in the future (if the Lord tarries) to church historians. You may leave a comment below or contact me directly. Bill Fawcett email@example.com